User talk:Jhonevans/Archive 1

Reply
Hello. I wasn't sure if those pages were really necessary. I've changed my my about all of them except for Mr. Blasty. By the way, when you put a picture on a page, please remember to not include the thumb note saying it was added by you or a note describing the picture. Also, please watch your spelling and grammer in the future. I had the fix a lot of errors on the pages you added. Thank you TheShadowCrow 21:38, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Again, please remember to not include a thumb on your pictures and not to make them ridiculously large. TheShadowCrow 00:10, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

When you put "thumb" in your photos, it leaves a note that the picture was added by you. This isn't supposed to show up in character templates. TheShadowCrow 21:58, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

You're not being a pest, all questions are welcomed. I see the problem on the Jimmy Carter page. On File:Marge_Statue.png|thumb you should've remove the thumb part and replace it with a px. File:Marge_Statue.png|Marge_Statue.png won't do anything. By the way, putting a 400px isn't bad. Just look at how the page looks and decide if it's an appropriate size. Nearly all pictures in a character template should be around 200-250px. Hope this helps TheShadowCrow 21:28, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Redirections and deletions
For the two pages you marked should be deleted, there's two different ways you can handle this.

The first is if you found a different page that covers the same subject, you can redirect the first one to the better page. You do that with  #redirect name of page. I've used that for the "Worker and Parasite!" and "Snowball l" pages (the second with a one instead of an uppercase I).

The second way is to mark that the page should be deleted. To do that, put the following at the top of the page:  . Add it to the top of the page, but don't erase the rest of the page. That will help us confirm that it should be deleted and an admin will delete the page as soon as they can. If you have any more questions, let me know. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 15:44, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Achievement badges
You had asked if the "Caffeinated" badge was the highest one available. Wikia hasn't gotten around to creating a list of what the badges are, but I'll try to give you a summary.

The groups badges are split into vary from wiki to wiki. There's about five basic kinds, but this wiki added the following:


 * Editing the following: Character pages, Episode pages, Production pages, Cast and Crew pages, Location pages, Quotes pages, References pages, Guest stars pages, and then for regular/other pages.
 * Adding pictures to a page
 * Adding categories to a page
 * Creating a blog or adding a comment to it

Each of these has a different level: Bronze (1 edit, 5 edits and 10 edits), Silver (25 edits, 50, 100), Gold (250 edits, 500 edits). Looks like for blogs, there's only a bronze for creating a blog, a bronze for commenting on 3 blogs and a silver for commenting on 10 blogs.

After that are the special badges, such as editing every 5/14/30/60/100/200/365 days, making 100 edits in a single day (this is the "Caffeinated" badge), and making the 1000th edit (this is cumulative, so it is for the 1000th edit, then the 2000th edit, then the 3000th edit, so it's random chance to earn this one).

I have already asked Wikia and it's not possible to reset the count. So, it's going to take a while before anybody can break into the top 10.

One thing to be careful about is creating throw-away edits just to earn a badge. I've seen wikis that turned on the Achivement Badges and then people start adding categories and other kinds of edits that are really trivial just to earn those badges. I think we already have some of that going on here, so after I get the categories cleaned up and organized, we will probably have to start warning and blocking users that are abusing the badging system. That will be a while down the road, though.

Let me know if you have any more questions. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 16:28, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

The other wiki
I'm moving the discussion about the other wiki from my blog over to here because I want that blog to be there for reference, rather than discussing what the other wiki is doing. RRabbit42

What wiki are they moving to? (or have moved to) -Jhonevans 07:29, November 15, 2011


 * I will leave that up to individuals to do a search for it. We will not have anything to do with them and have already started the process to completely separate ourselves from them. —RRabbit42 (leave a message) 05:28, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

I found it, they have a lot more articles than this one, which is impressive for such a young wiki compared to ours. Any reason why this one is better than theirs? Also, did they really re-write all the information again, or did they copy and paste it all from here? Jhonevans 08:57, November 15, 2011


 * They have more articles for the following reasons:


 * Many of the people from here, including the admins, moved to that other location. That left this wiki without people to help guide and build it until I started the process of finding new people to adopt it.
 * They actively tried to destroy this wiki because they were mad at Wikia. This may have caused some people to give up on trying to edit here.


 * Because of those two points, they had a head start on making their wiki grow when they took a copy of this wiki and used it as a starting point for their new one. Making a copy is allowed under the licensing, but you have to put a notice on the page that says where you got the info from. Technically, every page on the other wiki should have this notice, excluding any that were created after December 2010.


 * Now, as to why this wiki is better, that's going to be subjective. I believe it is better because it is about to get a major overhaul that will make it more attractive and easier to use. I have several ideas about how to do this and have already started the process with the cleanup I've done so far. There are also some features on Wikia wikis that are not available from other companies, such as slideshows, top ten lists and achievement badges.


 * But, for less subjective reasons, this wiki is better because:


 * We have not engaged in personal attacks on Wikia staff members and volunteers, nor taunted them, nor tried to impersonate them.
 * We do not believe that Wikia is evil, which would justify our behavior and vandalism.
 * We have not lied to people about being blocked, nor blocked them to force them to go to the other wiki.
 * We have not been hypocrites by vandalizing another wiki while we block people for vandalism on our own wiki.
 * We have not given people administrator rights just so those accounts could be used for vandalism.
 * We have not offered bribes to users to get them to go over to another wiki.
 * We have not lied to other users to trick them into giving us administrator rights.


 * As I told another person, that wiki's name has become tainted by the actions of their administrators. It will take a long time for them to rebuild their reputation. If they have more articles now, good for them. It's a step towards rebuilding that reputation. But for now, we are going to remain separate from them and find our own way.


 * I hope that you will want to stick around. The upcoming changes will be good and we can focus on more positive things. I believe in this enough that I am taking time away from other wikis I am responsible for to help this one rebuild. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 15:22, November 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * We hope you'll chose to stay here with us. The other wiki is very corrupt. They have encouraged people to vandalize this wiki. Two of their admins sent bots that would spam offensive comments on all of the pages. TheShadowCrow 01:56, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reply
Sorry about the lateness of my reply, my computer wasn't letting me do anything but undo stuff until now. I was kind of suprised the former admins could leave everything behind too. One of them got banned for supposedly for no reason and that got everyone of them really mad. Here is an exact word for word converstation with me and the former head bureaucrat:

Me: "And out of curiosity, how did the anti-wikia alliance manage to shut down Wikia?"

The Solar Dragon: "We used JavaScript code to create a mass of pages so quickly, it overloaded Wikia's servers, bringing it down."

They are like religious fanatics.

Anyways, a future Admin position for you is a definite possibility. Right now is to early, but I've been watching your edits and you've been doing a great job. This isn't an obnoxious question, I appreciate your interest. Keep up the good work and ask me again in a couple months once you feel you have the hang of wiki standards and policies. TheShadowCrow 21:57, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Question
I'm sorry I'm so late on my reply. I have been unable to come on wikia or the internet in general because of something I had to take care of in real life.

Anyways, I'm not really sure what you're asking me. It doesn't matter if a lower quality image remains on the wikia, as long as the higher quality one take's it's place. If you're talling me the lower quality picture stays on the page, I have looked at every edit you made on Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire and I didn't see that happening.

Overall, pictures on Apperances are perfered because then the user won't have to click on every link to see what the character looks like. But they're optional. I don't see any use in removing all the images.

TheShadowCrow 00:03, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reply
O.O

Heh, did you photoshop that? I thought you hacked and took over Simpsons Wiki for a second when I didn't see TheSolarDragon. Anyways, good luck working something out with those guys. And yes, please do keep me posted. TheShadowCrow 02:52, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

it's late... Im closing out for the night

so i'm so confused. i just learned how to add links to pages. P.S how do you make a tab for pages if you wanted to add "Gallery" or "Beavior"?

Thanks Firemime475 13:48, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey dude im getting the hang of this wiki but one question, can you make a badge and make it public so others can earn it or no?

It's ok :)
Just remember to double check spelling and grammer in the future. But don't be sorry, you've done a lot for the wiki and we're thankful for that. TheShadowCrow 04:24, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

How do u customize badges? I see the symbol but how?Firemime475 05:06, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

how do you be an admin Firemime475 05:35, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add this pic as the "Character Fan" badge I just got?Firemime475 05:59, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Look what i drew and wait i have a few more!

Firemime475 06:13, December 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pictures for badges have to be pretty small to fit inside the frame. A picture like this would have to go into a template that we would use as an award, but that would be something that is given out by a person instead of happening automatically based on what you edit. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 17:14, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Anything said
Administrator John Evans said anything "Jordan elias 06:55, December 4, 2011 (UTC)"

Re: Ideas
Hey man. Pretty good ideas.

I don't know if you noticed the new badges, but there are more specific ones now.

I agree we should update the home page more often. That's something me and RRabbit have discussed before and it's a work in progress. I have been thinking about bringing back the rewards, but that would require a lot of work. We would also have to rename them and redesign them to avoid confusion with the Simpsons Wiki awards.

As for an app... that sounds really cool, but I have no idea how too make one. TheShadowCrow 02:19, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

My Signature
Hi, Jhonevans. On my admin request page, you said I should learn to sign my signature. Whether this is a joke or you're serious, I've customised my signature so it actually looks like that. Look:

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomno (talk) 18:16, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomno (talk) 18:16, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomno (talk) 18:16, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

On the last one I wrote

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomno (talk) 18:16, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I was joking, but I was wondering why it would say that. Gotta teach me how to do something like that! Jhonevans 23:54, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just go to User:[User name]/Preferences, scroll down to the signature section, and click customize. Then you can make it look like almost anything. You might want to know some good code first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomno (talk) 15:36, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, I'm using the Gallery for the Ralph Wiggum page but how do you delete the undifned photos?Firemime475 16:11, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Do you remember what the date was when I made you an Admin? TheShadowCrow 02:56, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

3rd of December I am Jack&#39;s Jhonevans 02:52, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

K, thanks. TheShadowCrow 02:56, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Go on chat (I don't really have anything to say, but just in case) I am Jack&#39;s Jhonevans 02:57, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re: badge boosting
Sorry just try the earn badges and get on the leaderboards :( It just seems i do a lot and im not even in 20th place. So please can you tell me not to do and i will obey your compand.Firemime475 04:09, December 11, 2011 (UTC) Just Please i spend hours on this website and i don't want it to go to waste

Categories
Hold up on adding categories to the episode pages. I'm going to update the navigation template in a moment and it will auto-include the categories for us. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 15:17, December 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hold on, make sure all teh right categories are added, I don't want all the categories I've been adding erased. Also I've only finished all teh quote pages, half way through references (in making the upper tabs). I am Jack&#39;s Jhonevans 15:20, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Just wanted to say way to go on spliting the #1 rank between you and Solar Dragon. And it only took you a month and a half! That's some serious dedication. Congratulations dude. TheShadowCrow 02:22, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Well I usually get pretty dedicated to something once I start it. Shouldn't be long before I get my next 100 points. But nevertheless it's all for the site, gonna start powering out those pages once I get these tabs sorted out. Hopefully we can finally redesign the front page too! Anyway, thanks a lot. I am Jack&#39;s Jhonevans 08:45, December 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Now I'm #1. Anyway, could you please upgrade Randomno's to an admin. Also, perhaps RRabbit42 or I to a bureaucrat. Because I realise you often have Internet problems and it might be easier in the future. I am Jack&#39;s Jhonevans 16:24, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

How do you make stuff for Contents Firemime475 01:26, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Should I keep up my good work creating pages like Virtual Itchy and Scratchy, District 10 and District 9 Firemime475 05:14, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Flintstones
Whether they appear in a couch gag or not, they're the only Flintstones with that name, there's no need to disambiguate them. After ll, they appeared in their traditional design. Please do not revert my moves without a real reason to disambiguate themToonNicker3 12:25, December 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually that's a fair reason. Sorry for doing so. Jhonevan&#39;s signature. 12:27, December 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * I also included a second reason in the move, and a third in the move back to the original move, for just a bit more support. Sorry for sounding harsh.--ToonNicker3 12:29, December 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, no. You're correct. Now get editing! Jhonevan&#39;s signature. 12:30, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Inactivity
Hi. I'm worried about your inactivity. You're most recent edit was on December 26 moving your admin status from active to inactive. I noticed you last logged in today on that rotten tomatoes website. I really want to know what's happened. I don't remember you mentioning becoming inactive on chat on the 26th. User:Randomno User talk:Randomno  20:26, December 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not because you're secretly on strike until we start making pages, is it? User:Randomno User talk:Randomno   20:28, December 28, 2011 (UTC)