Talk:Springfield Mafia

Move original research to talk page
I'm moving this sentence here, because I think it was some editor's original research:

"The premier family among the Springfield mafia is the D'Amico crime family."

I've never come across this. I'd like to see a source cited. -- Fit Tony (talk) 09:11, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

The Castellaneta crime family is defunct?
How do we know this? -- Fit Tony (talk) 01:09, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Members
People seem to be putting a lot of stock in the FBI corkboard/push pin/yarn image that's on this page. Snake is listed as a Springfield mafia "member", and this FBI corkboard is given as the source. Krusty the Clown, Jimmy the Snitch and Mayor Quimby are also on this corkboard.

Other corkboards appear in The Simpsons. The people on them vary.

I don't think Jimmy the Snitch is a member of the Springfield mafia, unless he's a snitch for the Springfield mob -- but then why would they have tied him up and thrown him in the trunk of their car, if snitching was what he was supposed to do.

If Krusty is a member, why did they try to kill him for owing them money? Why did Bart have Legs and Louie beat Krusty up, for failure to pay them for keeping McDonalds and Burger King out of town? They could have just withheld that money from him, when it came time to pay him.

Neither of these two charaters has ever been shown, to the best of my knowledge, doing something for the mafia. At least in Snake's case, he once did something for Fat Tony in Mr. Burns' jail.

Snake and Jimmy the Snitch are both listed as being mob members. Krusty is not. If we are considering this FBI corkboard a reliable source, for who's a member, why isn't Krusty listed as a "member"? -- Fit Tony (talk) 02:40, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Mobster Rank Titles
There is a question of adding rank titles to mobsters, when these cannot be sourced -- because nowhere in the series are they specified. Rationale's range maybe from synthesis, to fan fiction, to very questionable assumptions, to original research, to 'I doubt his name is really Don' . (I guess if one doesn't speak Spanish and Portuguese -- maybe the two languages that are most similar to Italian -- like me, you don't really understand what calling somebody "Don" (or "Dom") means.) We need to discuss this insertion of fan fiction -- that's based on, 'well it must be' (when that's not necessarily so) --here, to try to come to a reach a consensus.

An edit war isn't the way, nor is tendentious editing.

My question is: "Where are these rank titles specified?" You never see or hear these rank titles specified, because they simply aren't, anywhere.

The closest I've seen,iirc, is when Lisa tells Homer that Selma is treating a "mob boss" -- (Fit) Fat Tony -- like an ordinary citizen. . Or when they make the accountant the temporary "don", in Penny Wiseguys. -- Fit Tony (talk) 10:35, November 30, 2014 (UTC)