Talk:Simpsons Wiki/Archive 6

Hey...
The scroll things on Prominence and References in the Craracter articles are annoying. Can we just have them without scrolling?

Also, we could take "References", "Quotes" and "Gags" in the episode articles and make one Trivia page instead. That would make thing easier. We could also take the "Appeareance" section and the "Credits" section and make one page of them. At last, I'd like to write scrips for the show :)

BeMysterious, 07:04, May 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * The scroll boxes are used when the information would take up a lot of the page, such as the 500+ episodes that Bart has been in. For a shorter amount, you could try taking out the scroll tags and do a preview of the page. If it doesn't look excessively long, then it would be okay to do without the scroll box.


 * Credits are for the credits that appear at the end of the episodes. It's for helping show who worked on what episode.


 * Some of the older Appearances page have a gallery of each character that's in an episode. Other Appearances pages just have a list. It's something we need to standardize.


 * As for combining the three pages, that may not work very well. There can be up to three sections in References: Trivia, Cultural References and Goofs. Some episodes end up having a lot of quotes. And the Gags are something new that was added due to the new Opening Sequence having a lot of details, plus other running gags that may appear, such as Bart making prank calls or Homer talking about his latest dream. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 00:48, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Character Ages

 * It seems that many of the editors on this wiki are assuming many of the characters' ages, without referencing any sources. In fact the only characters who have had their ages confirmed or semi-confirmed are:


 * Homer Simpson - 36-38
 * Marge Simpson - 34-36 - The Simpsons: A Complete Guide to Our Favorite Family
 * Bart Simpson - 10
 * Lisa Simpson - 8
 * Maggie Simpson - 1
 * Ned Flanders - 60 (although past flashbacks suggests otherwise) - Viva Ned Flanders
 * Seymour Skinner - 40 - Skinner's Sense of Snow (Although The Principal and the Pauper and Little Girl in the Big Ten suggests otherwise)
 * Charles Montgomery Burns - 81-104
 * Waylon Smithers, Jr. - Early 40's - The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular
 * Daphne Burns - 122 - Homer the Smithers
 * Jeffrey Albertson - 45 - The Bart Book
 * Frank Grimes - 35 - Homer's Enemy
 * Laura Powers - 15 - ?
 * Luke Stetson - 13 - The Simpsons: One Step Beyond Forever
 * Tyrone Simpson - 95 - Catch 'Em if You Can
 * Darcy - 15 - Simpsons World: The Ultimate Episode Guide, Seasons 1-20
 * Mary Spuckler - 11 - Apocalypse Cow
 * Certain students in Springfield Elementary, depending what grade they're in.
 * Because of the floating timeline, many of the babies (Maggie, Ling, Gerald, the Octuplets, and the Spuckler babies) age at least one year after birth.

With that said, it should be made a mandatory rule that all currently exist and future character articles (If not already) should have sources cited next to their ages, or face deletion of that edit. --Kid Sonic 07:48, May 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * I will say though, right at the beginning of the entire series we can safely assume that Bart, Lisa and Maggie are all one year younger, as they all have birthdays within the first few seasons of the show, so I guess, for example, in the very first episode, the kids are 9, 7 and 0?


 * The supreme mother trudy 14:05, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Part of this is addressed in our FAQ. Some of the edits are from the idea of "well, the character was X years old when the episode premiered and Y years have passed since then, so therefore, their age needs to be updated". Others are simply fan fiction: "the character looks like they are about this age and there isn't one listed, so I'll invent an age for them".


 * I did a lot of cleanup on this kind of thing before, mostly on the characters shown in the family tree from the Uncensored Family Album where they are only pictured yet people insisted on trying to give them ages, a birthday and a death day even when those three things contradicted themselves. I think I need to go back through and double-check those.


 * I do agree that any ages need to have sources referenced for their ages. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 14:31, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Language bar
Hi, I can't edit this page... But could any of you administrators add into the end of the article (in the language bar) "lt:" (without the " " and with the ). -Vilius2001 10:45, December 22, 2012‎ (UTC)


 * It's already there. You have to click on the "see all" link to get it to show up. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 04:24, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Senseless articles
Hello, I am writing because of one problem. Many unregistered people visit the wiki and create articles here. But you should see the content of the articles! For example, did you see an actual appearance page for the episode "What Animated Women Want"? The only text in it is "hytjtyjt..." etc. I have found more articles like this one and it is horrible!

Isn't there any way how to stop it? For example to create the rule that only registered people can edit the wiki. I guess that nobody will register themselves on the wiki only to write "yygthy" on one page. —Terry12fins24 (talk) 19:57, February 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * A decision was made a few years ago to require that everyone be registered before they can edit here. On the surface, it seems that it would cut down on problems, but I learned a while back that if someone wants to vandalize a wiki, they won't let having to register for an account stop them. I have seen it happen several times where anonymous users sign up for accounts in order to continue causing problems, then create even more accounts when the first ones are blocked.


 * The side effect requiring people to register is that you shut out a lot of people. Some may be too young to have an account but want to edit anyway. Others simply may not want to register. Yet others may want to try out editing on a wiki to see if they like it and may end up getting an account later.


 * I had Wikia remove that requirement last month. Besides the above, the other reason was that it was a remnant of the previous administrators' decisions, which led to the wiki having kind of an oppressive tone in various places (such as the policies, which I really need to work on overhauling).


 * In my opinion, going back to requiring registration would be like hanging a large sign above the doorway saying "we don't want you here". Not exactly a good way to encourage participation and would push us back towards having an oppressive tone to this wiki.


 * There will occasionally be problems from anonymous users. Vandalism, profanity or simply nuisance edits. Usually pretty minor and easy to fix, and is actually easier to fix than the vandalism that a registered user can cause. Creating placeholder pages isn't as good as taking the time to fill them out, but I also know that it can be daunting to be the one to start a page from scratch, so if we get a new page with gibberish, we just need to clean it up a little so that others can take it from there. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 07:06, February 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * This is something every Wiki has to go through. I've deleted many faked articles and just deleted one now called Bloodening Girl, which was completely blank. It's just something we can't avoid and need to take care of soon after it happens. TheShadowCrow (talk) 01:33, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Deleted images?
I have noticed some images are "no longer available" on the wiki. Does it mean that they have been deleted? And if they have, why? Because they weren't categorized?

Under the "image" a following text appeared: "This file contains additional information, probably added from the digital camera or scanner used to create or digitize it. If the file has been modified from its original state, some details may not fully reflect the modified file."

Could anybody explain me what it means? Terry12fins24 (talk) 16:46, March 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Please provide some examples/links so I can see what's going on. It's been a while since I cleaned up the pictures, so the only thing I did since then was to take the unused pictures and put them in a couple of sandboxes so they can be checked and sorted without filling up the unused files report.


 * The "additional information" is metadata that cameras and some programs add behind the scenes to help with organizing pictures, but also can reveal details about the manufacturer and model of camera/program. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 14:51, March 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * When you visit the page The Color Yellow/Appearances, there are a few "empty" images (three characters, three locations and all media). I have uploaded them in the same time, while making an appearances page for the episode The Color Yellow. However, two of the images (they are under the text) I uploaded that time are still available, although there is a "metadata" note on their pages. Terry12fins24 (talk) 21:39, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Switched around
I see the 'Recent photos' and 'Recent  Videos' is now on top of the recent edits. I have a complaint about this: you can't see your badges. Be Real. Be a Nerfer. Be a Ninja. BOOM! (talk) 07:55, October 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * That appears to be a change made by Wikia, but you should still be able to view your badges if you go to your profile page. If you still can't see them there, go to the Help desk forum and create a message there describing exactly what's going on and we'll figure it out from there. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 15:02, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's been fixed. Be Real. Be a Nerfer. Be a Ninja. BOOM! (talk) 06:30, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Background
Please can you remove your cloud background. The Tapped Out blog tstotopix.com is shortly to be using that and I wouldn't like to get the two websites confused. 86.185.80.31 20:23, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * This wiki has been using the cloud background for years, so surely it would be more to the point to ask the blog not to use it? — RobertATfm (talk) 22:46, November 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * There are enough differences in how the pages are arranged on both websites that having the same or similar image along the sides of the content should not be confusing. We may change the background in the future, but making a change to avoid a coincidence with a different website would not be a reason we did so. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 15:27, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Error on ths page?
Well, to be exact, it appears t be an error in one of hte templates used to generate the page content, rather than in the page itself. I refer to the following, just above "Featured article":

Announcements that appear on the main page of the wiki.

Other announcements can be entered into MediaWiki:Sitenotice, with updates to the ID number on MediaWiki:Sitenotice id and MediaWiki:Community-corner, triggering the pop-up that there are new Community Messages.&lt;/noinclude>

The dangling "noinclude" tag is definitely a mistake, and the rest looks as if it is intended to be seen by admins only, as nobody else can edit pages in the MediaWiki namespace. Something to look into? — RobertATfm (talk) 14:28, November 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * It must have been a temporary glitch since the "Announcements that appear" message looks like a system message and it's gone now. —RRabbit42 ( leave a message ) 23:56, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Message walls
God, do we HAVE to have message walls? Those are unprofessional and a large, excellent wiki like this (that's bee around for ages) really does not and shpoould not have a message wall. Sure it may be easier to see when everyone  replies, but there's also difficulty with vandalisers getting rid of threads for no reason. WHAT DOES THE FOX SAY!? (talk) 11:59, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Favourite Characters.
What is your favourite of the simpsons characters?

My favourite characters of the simpsons is Homer Simpsons.
 * I'm not sure of the relevance of this. As the page header reminds us, talk pages are only for disscussion of the article itself, not of its subject. If this post is suggesting the subject of the next poll to be posted on the front page, then it's relevant; but I doubt this. — RobertATfm (talk) 08:55, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Channel 6
300th talk topic!

Anyway, the Channel 6 News should not dislay Labor Pains anymore. There should be either Yellow Subterfuge or the christmas special (i forgot the name). GETENT (talk) 01:20, December 2, 2013 (UTC)