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URL 	irc://foo/bar 	Connected via 	 	Connected to 	 File 		Progress 	 	 	They are extrememly unorganized atm		They are extremely unorganized atm*		that review makes me sad :( 	lookign at your previous comment about me		haha 	Dot dot dot 	You may have noticed I added a stub to a bunch of pages 	oh, and speaking of cats, for the small policies (mostly by Chia), check out Category:Policies 	ok 	It was something like all articles under 2kb or s		o * HuggleBear	checks 	ohhh, ok		Category:Policy, sorry 	What about it? 	it's got the wiki policies so far 	you were talking about policies <Creepydude>	just saying that's the small bit we've got <Creepydude>	something to build offa <Creepydude>	oh, and the recent changes thing is really cool :)	<HuggleBear>	:P	<HuggleBear>	Oh, check MediaWiki:Licensing	* Creepydude	is changing his text so it is easier to pick out	<Creepydude>	ok	<Creepydude>	oooh, blank page!	<HuggleBear>	licenses	<Creepydude>	;) <HuggleBear>	Sorry <Creepydude>	ok <HuggleBear>	http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Licenses <Creepydude>	THANK YOU <Creepydude>	been looking forever for that! <Creepydude>	ever since we made the new image template <HuggleBear>	Heh, <Creepydude>	I'll replace FairUse with Copyrighted Images <Creepydude>	or whatever <Creepydude>	Copyrighted Media <HuggleBear>	On one of my other wikis <HuggleBear>	Since it is about a tv show, we made it only one option :P <Creepydude>	haha <Creepydude>	that's aweosme <HuggleBear>	The template for screenshots, so that way they couldn't screw it up	<Creepydude>	xD <HuggleBear>	Then, if it actually wasn't one, an advanced user would just change it later <Creepydude>	right <HuggleBear>	So, how's welcoming new users going? <HuggleBear>	Thanks for the buttons though. <Creepydude>	pretty well <Creepydude>	np <Creepydude>	I'm slowly learning <Creepydude>	:)	<Creepydude>	oh, and speaking of other wikis, I don't really know what to do about Tipper45	<Creepydude>	I'm almost positive he's under 13	<Creepydude>	he has to be	<HuggleBear>	So?	<Creepydude>	and he went and asked me to try and circumvent a block on wookiepedia	<HuggleBear>	Just tell him no.	<Creepydude>	he got temp blocked for deleting content on talk pages	<HuggleBear>	Explain that it isn't our responsibility. And warn him not to spam that with other users	<Creepydude>	and he goes around spamming people's talk pages, but I don't think he knows not to do it or something	<Creepydude>	yah	<HuggleBear>	He'll go back into his hole	<Creepydude>	it's sorta complicated, but I don't want to block him, but he's more of an annoyance then a help	<Creepydude>	hmmm, ok	<HuggleBear>	We once had a guy on our wiki named Kevin	<HuggleBear>	he wasn't a vandal, but was an extreme annoyance by spamming talk pages, causing fights, and not listening to anyone <HuggleBear>	Guess what happened to him? <Creepydude>	what? <HuggleBear>	Perma-block <Creepydude>	ahh <Creepydude>	I guess sometimes I got to learn to make the hard decision <Creepydude>	and just block to save problems <Creepydude>	about the community right? <Creepydude>	but I'm not to that point with him yet <HuggleBear>	Depends <HuggleBear>	he was there for a while <Creepydude>	I was reading somehting like taht on a quote from jimmy wales <Creepydude>	he says that vandals are no problem, it's the people who want to help, but don't that are problems <Creepydude>	who have a negative impact, but try to help <Creepydude>	ah well <Creepydude>	Anyway, who's SuperFlash101? <Creepydude>	bot? <HuggleBear>	from one of my wikis <Creepydude>	oh, ok	<HuggleBear>	Well, a few actually <Creepydude>	why multiple aliases? <HuggleBear>	I drop by a lot botting <Creepydude>	ok <HuggleBear>	I have two, one for my lappy and one for my desktop etc <Creepydude>	why's that? <Creepydude>	like, why one for each compyu <HuggleBear>	I have different software on each computer <Creepydude>	how does that change it? <HuggleBear>	I'm on IRC with both computers <Creepydude>	oh, ok	<HuggleBear>	This way when I talk to my Wiki people, they know I can't bot now <Creepydude>	ahhhh <Creepydude>	that makes sense <HuggleBear>	Ah <HuggleBear>	A lot of our editors are IPs <HuggleBear>	We must welcome them :P <HuggleBear>	And /make/ them get accounts <Creepydude>	haha <Creepydude>	yes <Creepydude>	definitely <Creepydude>	I try to stress that <Creepydude>	I love your "we'd love to give you credit" phrase on the welcome IP :)	<HuggleBear>	Heh,	<HuggleBear>	How many IP addresses do you have memorised?	<Creepydude>	uhh, none	<Creepydude>	:|	<Creepydude>	:) <HuggleBear>	That's the point? <Creepydude>	exactyl <HuggleBear>	4. Welcome more Ips <HuggleBear>	I saw a nice template on another wiki I visited <HuggleBear>	 ore something <HuggleBear>	Maybe it was <HuggleBear>	Well, you put it on your talk page if you have questions, and then one of the admins will come to you :P <Creepydude>	wow, sounds cool <HuggleBear>	What do you think about getting us something like that? <Creepydude>	good plan <Creepydude>	kinda like wikipedia's adopt a use <Creepydude>	r <HuggleBear>	With our nub cake editors <Creepydude>	haha ===	SuperFlash101 <n=chatzill@73-54.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com> “New Now Know How” ===	SuperFlash101: member of ##Joeyaa ===	SuperFlash101: attached to irc.freenode.net “http://freenode.net/” ===	SuperFlash101: away with message “I am not here at the moment. Be patient, 'kay? My computer might've crashed.” ===	SuperFlash101: idle for 3 hours, 53 minutes, 41 seconds (on since February-09-09 11:37:00 AM) ---	End of WHOIS information for SuperFlash101. <Creepydude>	I was just looking at a recent IP edit where someone added ":P" to a trivia question * Creepydude	rolls his eyes <HuggleBear>	heh <HuggleBear>	We have a lot of stubs <HuggleBear>	And small, pathetic pages <HuggleBear>	One liners, that don't even have a picture <Creepydude>	yes <Creepydude>	we do	<Creepydude>	levels and challengse <Creepydude>	especially WaW levels and challenges <HuggleBear>	And background characters <Creepydude>	yes, on images <HuggleBear>	We probably should make a nice template similar to stub, but on pages that are well, absolutely unacceptable... <HuggleBear>	Stubs are for short pages, so this would be for bad pages <HuggleBear>	5. template <Creepydude>	I can see it now, <Creepydude>	:)	<HuggleBear>	:P	<Creepydude>	yah, something like, an orphanage for pages like taht	<HuggleBear>	This is simple...	<HuggleBear>	http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Needshelp	<Creepydude>	ok	<Creepydude>	we need humor like taht	<Creepydude>	;) <Creepydude>	that helps <HuggleBear>	6. Create helpful templates <Creepydude>	but actually, I think one of the biggest things we need in general, is just to make a very, VERY user and noob-friendly environment <HuggleBear>	That's true <Creepydude>	stuff like a list of oft-used infoboxes like wookiepedia <Creepydude>	I just saw that today, and it would be cool <HuggleBear>	I want to make everything big like the wapon boxes and stuff collapsible <HuggleBear>	weapon* <HuggleBear>	God damn laptop <Creepydude>	yah, I'm not really sure how to do that; I'll have to do some code copying :D * Creepydude	smiles guiltily <HuggleBear>	It's really easy <HuggleBear>	We already have the MediaWiki code <HuggleBear>	We just need to format and stuff... <Creepydude>	hmm, ok	<Creepydude>	right <HuggleBear>	It's a big picture thing, so we will have to take our time :p <Creepydude>	well, if we can get that together, I can go through and change the main ones <Creepydude>	yahhh... <Creepydude>	but we don't have THAT many of those <Creepydude>	actually, I belive the "Call of Duty games" template has the show/hide thing * HuggleBear	looks <HuggleBear>	link? <Creepydude>	Template:CoDgames <Creepydude>	there <Creepydude>	just found it	<Creepydude>	oh, "class-navbox collapsible" <Creepydude>	ok <Creepydude>	so we can just do that <HuggleBear>	Not exactly <Creepydude>	oh <HuggleBear>	They're different types, so they don't work the same <Creepydude>	ohhh, right <Creepydude>	of course <Creepydude>	the other ones are specially made <Creepydude>	where as that one is a relic from oen of the first templates <HuggleBear>	7. Collapsify the templates <Creepydude>	yup <Creepydude>	nice new word! * Creepydude	gives thumbs up	<HuggleBear>	Heh, been using it a while now <HuggleBear>	I make my own Wiki lingo <Creepydude>	haha :)	<Creepydude>	righton	<HuggleBear>	Shall we change the sidebar?	<Creepydude>	what part?	|<--	Creepydude has left freenode ("Java user signed off")	-->|	Creepydude (n=creepydu@24.68.32.187) has joined ##Joeyaa	<Creepydude>	oops	<Creepydude>	I just killed somehting	<Creepydude>	but I'm back	<Creepydude>	what were we talking about?	<HuggleBear>	Shall we change the sidebar?	<HuggleBear>	lol	<Creepydude>	right :) <Creepydude>	what part? <HuggleBear>	All of it? <HuggleBear>	Top content is extremely stupid, and is easily taken off <Creepydude>	like, I sorta changed the links, but as far as I've seen, every wiki has the same basic format, barring a few <Creepydude>	yah, I know how to remove things <Creepydude>	I've removed and added parts in the past <Creepydude>	and yah <Creepydude>	what I want to see is more helpful things, like links to the main categories <HuggleBear>	All I see now is some of the games, and a link to the portal <HuggleBear>	That's all I see there <HuggleBear>	We should reorganize it	<HuggleBear>	Change some of it	<HuggleBear>	some = a lot <Creepydude>	waitwait, ALL you see is some of the games and a link to the portal? <HuggleBear>	No, that's all I see that isn't a waste of space <Creepydude>	not even the "Advanced Search" thing and the "Help" thing? <Creepydude>	oh yah <Creepydude>	:)	<Creepydude>	the others were tempo-things added by me	<Creepydude>	the above items	<HuggleBear>	Tempo = forever?	<HuggleBear>	NO	<HuggleBear>	lol	<HuggleBear>	8. SIDEBAR!	<Creepydude>	yupyup	<Creepydude>	heh	<Creepydude>	the find an admin thing is VERY important though	<Creepydude>	want people to report vandalism	<HuggleBear>	When was the last time Darkman edit?	<Creepydude>	let's face it, if I went on a wiki, I want to know who to contact for blocking, deleting, protecting, and stuff	<HuggleBear>	I doubt he will be blocking anytime soon.	<Creepydude>	about 2 months ago	<Creepydude>	yes	<Creepydude>	he came back in jan, but then left	<Creepydude>	agian	<Creepydude>	so I took him off the list, but them put him back when he came back	<HuggleBear>	How about a forum for m n? get all the ado watch it? So all admins get it at the same time, to make it faster and easier	<Creepydude>	haven't changed it since <Creepydude>	ok <Creepydude>	but IRC is better <HuggleBear>	Will there be an admin on 24/7? <Creepydude>	oh wait, I thought you were talkign about somehting diff <Creepydude>	nevermidn <Creepydude>	uhh, not really, so yah <HuggleBear>	fail <Creepydude>	forums <Creepydude>	hey! >:(	<Creepydude>	:) <HuggleBear>	Just one big forum, you can add to	<Creepydude>	suuurrre <Creepydude>	like the help desk? <Creepydude>	FAIL <Creepydude>	xD |<--	Creepydude has left freenode (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) -->|	Creepydude (n=creepydu@24.68.32.187) has joined ##Joeyaa <Creepydude>	Damn, hate that! <Creepydude>	stupid IE7 <HuggleBear>	Ha. get a client <HuggleBear>	But, as i was saying... <Creepydude>	hmm? <HuggleBear>	It is important, might as well let it have its own space <Creepydude>	client? <Creepydude>	yes <Creepydude>	ok <HuggleBear>	client, is something to use on Irc to enable full viwing like everyone else <HuggleBear>	Most people on IRC use a client <Creepydude>	oh, like a java program? <HuggleBear>	no <HuggleBear>	It's an addon that is in CSS or something <Creepydude>	oh <Creepydude>	I'll check it out <Creepydude>	but yah, IE sometimes crashes if you have too many tabs open <Creepydude>	:(	<HuggleBear>	Get Firefox	<Creepydude>	about a 1/50 chance	<Creepydude>	hate FireFox worse than IE	<Creepydude>	:) <HuggleBear>	Why? <Creepydude>	the style is screwy <HuggleBear>	You get use to it	<Creepydude>	I can't access everything easy <Creepydude>	maybe <HuggleBear>	Anyways... <HuggleBear>	On topic, <HuggleBear>	lol <Creepydude>	rightright <Creepydude>	heh <HuggleBear>	So yes a forum then <Creepydude>	so, alternate help desk sorta thing <Creepydude>	yes <HuggleBear>	Ya, and make sure it is in the Sidebar <HuggleBear>	And easily accessible <Creepydude>	ok <Creepydude>	#9 I believe <HuggleBear>	9. Vandalism forum <Creepydude>	uuhhu <Creepydude>	so... what next? <HuggleBear>	Heh, i'll think os something <HuggleBear>	of <Creepydude>	hey, you wanna work on Manual of style? <Creepydude>	I can do the MediaWiki and forum stuff <Creepydude>	things like that <HuggleBear>	We'll make a note about it	<Creepydude>	ok <HuggleBear>	And get the community involved <Creepydude>	Sitenotice <Creepydude>	def <HuggleBear>	That is what a wiki is :P <Creepydude>	I sure hope so	<Creepydude>	:)	<Creepydude>	But I realllly wanna get that profile thing, because guarenteed it will draw in the community	<Creepydude>	it'll be only what, the 4th or 5th wiki with it	<Creepydude>	halo, GTA, GameGear, and a few rogue ones	<HuggleBear>	Lots of new features coming..	<Creepydude>	oh yah	<Creepydude>	WIKI HOTSPOT	<Creepydude>	today the fixes, tomorrow the wiki spotlight!	<HuggleBear>	Oh, and a lot of articles are written in mixed perspectives	<Creepydude>	yes, I'm just looking at a revision where someone just got rid of some text and both ways it is opinion	<HuggleBear>	Some write in second person, others in first, and the remainder in what it is suppose to be	<Creepydude>	yes	<Creepydude>	manual of stypd	<Creepydude>	style	<Creepydude>	oops	<HuggleBear>	"I have only mad eit to level 20 on nazi Zombies"	<Creepydude>	yes	<Creepydude>	that sucks	<HuggleBear>	Hmm, how does an article play zombies? <Creepydude>	I'm sure someone will find a way <HuggleBear>	10. Correct article writing styles <Creepydude>	oh, oh, and should stuff be using "one might do this", or "you might want to"...? <Creepydude>	but that is sort of linked to manual of style <HuggleBear>	It would best if a player was to... <Creepydude>	ok <Creepydude>	resonable <Creepydude>	[sic] <Creepydude>	I love H*R :)
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<HuggleBear>	11. Unite community <Creepydude>	I think actually, the biggest things that can and do go wrong is users being to blunt/harsh <Creepydude>	it is good when it comes to tight situations, but it is not good for all the time ===	SuperFlash101 <n=chatzill@73-54.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com> “New Now Know How” ===	SuperFlash101: member of ##Joeyaa ===	SuperFlash101: attached to irc.freenode.net “http://freenode.net/” ===	SuperFlash101: away with message “I am not here at the moment. Be patient, 'kay? My computer might've crashed.” ===	SuperFlash101: idle for 4 hours, 38 minutes, 43 seconds (on since February-09-09 11:37:00 AM) ---	End of WHOIS information for SuperFlash101. <Creepydude>	I'll have to admit, you acted something like that, although I didn't exactly go about things right <Creepydude>	we got off on the wrong foot, and I've tried to make it so other users don't ahve that <HuggleBear>	You have to admit, pissing you off really did help <Creepydude>	yup :)	<HuggleBear>	;	<HuggleBear>	;) <Creepydude>	good times... <Creepydude>	haha <Creepydude>	geez, time passes <HuggleBear>	Heh <HuggleBear>	So, remember that I take bot requests... <Creepydude>	sure thing <HuggleBear>	It really speeds some things up	<Creepydude>	agreed <HuggleBear>	Adding templates, categories, replace text, mass -whatevering things <HuggleBear>	All become easy <Creepydude>	I'm still sort of explorign all those advanced options <Creepydude>	yes <Creepydude>	you know what, I know you said that you weren't interested in admin, but frankly, it would be helpful <Creepydude>	between the 2 of us, we could have 2 fully-functional operators <HuggleBear>	Are you suggesting I seek adminship? <Creepydude>	it seems silly for you to ask me to change a mediawiki something <Creepydude>	yes, I am	<Creepydude>	:)	<Creepydude>	I think we can trust you...	* Creepydude	looks closely at you	<HuggleBear>	Heh, you'd be surprised	<Creepydude>	well, you've got a bot	<HuggleBear>	MediaWiki things are crazy	<HuggleBear>	two actually,	<Creepydude>	as if you couldn't vandalise things enough	<HuggleBear>	if you count AWB	<Creepydude>	what's that?	<HuggleBear>	Semi-auto bot	<Creepydude>	oh?	<HuggleBear>	It's liek a bot, except I have to do it manually, and it saves things automatically by a list of pages I preset	<Creepydude>	ahhh	<HuggleBear>	Don't you just love bots?	<Creepydude>	you know, I've never really understood this "too many admins" thing. If you trust the user, then why not give him admin? It really wouldn't take long to fix things if for some reason they were assholes	<Creepydude>	haha	<Creepydude>	uhh, yah	<HuggleBear>	Umm,	<HuggleBear>	One thing	<HuggleBear>	http://clubpenguin.wikia.com <Creepydude>	like, I understnad the obvious <Creepydude>	okkk <HuggleBear>	It's the most famous wiki <HuggleBear>	Well, infamous <HuggleBear>	30 something admins <HuggleBear>	400 articles <HuggleBear>	All of them stubs <Creepydude>	whoa <HuggleBear>	And all daily edits are pointless discussions on talk pages <Creepydude>	I see the notice at the sitenotice <HuggleBear>	Ya, it was something we all laughed at	<HuggleBear>	all = Wikia staffs and users <Creepydude>	holy crap, that is plain bizarre <Creepydude>	ok, that's one of those "dealing with extremes" wikis <HuggleBear>	NEVER TELL A STAFF YOU ARE UNDER 13 <Creepydude>	:)	<Creepydude>	haha	<Creepydude>	no kidding!	<HuggleBear>	Especially not the co-creator of Wikia!	<HuggleBear>	Even though Angela is nice, I've talked to her	<Creepydude>	:) <Creepydude>	oh, that reminds me <HuggleBear>	... <Creepydude>	I was thinking of talkign to the people on www.tf2wiki.net and www.hrwiki.net and see if they want to coem to wikia <Creepydude>	the homestar and tf wikias are crap <Creepydude>	literally nothing there <Creepydude>	but these are aweosme <Creepydude>	those are 2 of my favourite things, by the by	<Creepydude>	and of course, call of duty <HuggleBear>	Spam? That's always a good idea... <Creepydude>	hmm? <HuggleBear>	joking... <Creepydude>	like, WoWwiki was and is it's own domain, but they are part of wikia now <Creepydude>	if they move to wikia, does wikia pay for the domain? <Creepydude>	how does that work <HuggleBear>	No, Wikia offers things like promises for a bigger community <HuggleBear>	And its software <Creepydude>	oh <Creepydude>	ok <HuggleBear>	Then Wikia does the rest <Creepydude>	right <Creepydude>	well, maybe I'll run it by them <Creepydude>	I just wanted to know the benifits <HuggleBear>	heh <HuggleBear>	So, do you think I should request rollback? <Creepydude>	at least <Creepydude>	I'd say go for admin <Creepydude>	I'd vote for you :)	<Creepydude>	he don't like you?	<HuggleBear>	I criticized him, more than I did you	<Creepydude>	I haven't really seen anything, except for your slightly scathing review	<Creepydude>	yah...	<Creepydude>	oh well	<Creepydude>	we can sort that	<HuggleBear>	He acts like a baby, and for an admin, it is unacceptable, so I had to say something	<HuggleBear>	Meh	<Creepydude>	someday I'll go for burueacrat	<Creepydude>	maybe	<Creepydude>	haha	<HuggleBear>	:O	<Creepydude>	it's not really important now, but I think that it will be forthcoming as our current admins are only occasional visiters	<HuggleBear>	I don't think I have enough edits	<Creepydude>	I mean, I haven't really felt the need to give someone privelages, except for Ross's rollbacks	<Creepydude>	bahhh	<Creepydude>	comeon	<Creepydude>	you were just saying that edit count is complete garbage	<Creepydude>	xD