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Comics[]
I'm guessing comics are still considered canon? It is just that on the page Globex Corporation, they are under the non-canon section. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk)☆ 06:39, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, unless they are THOH or stuff like that.--Sgtcook (My Talk Page) 17:08, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Most events in the comics are never mentioned in the show, and they sometimes contradict information in the shows. The producers never really addressed whether the comics are canon or not, but most fans consider canon as anything that happens in the series and the movie only. Ldude893 11:57, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
Rules[]
Proposed rules:
- Everything is considered canon except Treehouse of Horror, Bible Stories and other similar trilogy episodes.
- If another source contradicts an episode, the episode comes first. Before books etc.
- If a game has something non-canon about it, such as characters from Treehouse of horror in, it is non canon.
If we go by these rules, that can make everything work, I think. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk)☆ 12:03, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable, though I really think the events in the comics are noncanon. Many of the stories are just impossible to occur in the show. Take Simpsons Comics #1 and #8 for example, these two comics involve a growth/shrinking ray, an object that generally falls into the category of Treehouse of Horror, except this isn't a Halloween comic. And Issue #33 involves the entire town switching roles with other characters due to an invention by Professor Frink going haywire, it's too unrealistic to occur in the show.
- What if we define "non-canon" as any Simpsons media outside the show or the movie that isn't referenced in the show or doesn't affect the show itself? (or if it's THOH, dream sequences, Bible Stories and other trilogy episodes) Ldude893 12:26, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
- I still think the comics should be considered canon as they are part of that sort of material. However, if any one else has any thoughts, please get them across. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk)☆ 14:08, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
This List is Incomplete[]
There are still some entries not listed, including The Simpsons: Hit and Run and "The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular". Should they be added? Ldude893 00:46, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Feel free. In fact, the whole page needs to be cleaned up a bit. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk)☆ 07:07, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Early Treehouse of Horror[]
Why are the first three Treehouse of Horror episodes included here? Weren't they written specifically so they would be canon episodes (Bart tells stories in the treehouse, everyone has nightmares, everyone tells stories in the living room). I propose that those three be specifically removed, and the episodes listed as canon, with a note on "the stories in" being non-canon, like Simpsons Bible Stories Simpson Christmas Stories.--Tim Thomason 07:37, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Simpsons Bible Stories is not canon. They walked into Hell at the end! But, yeah, I see what you are on about there. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 07:40, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. SBS should be "upgraded" on the list then, since the set-up story was also non-canon (unlike most non-Halloween anthology shows).--Tim Thomason 07:44, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, technically, all episodes are canon. It's just that TOHs and other three-story episodes don't follow the regular continuity of the show. And "That '90s Show" doesn't mix up the dates of The Simpsons any more than other flashback episodes. Maybe we should create a different tag for out-of-continuity episodes.Underfaker 08:10, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. SBS should be "upgraded" on the list then, since the set-up story was also non-canon (unlike most non-Halloween anthology shows).--Tim Thomason 07:44, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
Dates[]
"Dates used to describe events in: That '90s Show" --Dates are never canon, right? They've been used since the early seasons sporadically, and are best ignored. That '90s Show should be just as canon as any other regular episode, and not specified in such a manner.--Tim Thomason 07:37, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed. --C Teng 23:54, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
Ultimate Simpsons Doom?[]
Is it appropriate for Ultimate Simpsons Doom (and perhaps other fan mods or fan-made games, if any other such exist) to be listed on this page?
After all, if there's such a thing as degrees of canonicity, then USD is probably the most non-canonical of all, since it just maps Simpsons characters (and sounds) into the Doomiverse.
Still, I felt it best to ask for consensus rater than just going ahead and adding it. -- RobertATfm 11:57, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
Hit and run[]
Why is that game non-canon?Flashbash000 (talk) 19:10, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Add "brick like me" to the non-canon list
I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot[]
If one storyline is non canon, should it be noted as such, or should the entire episode be discounted? I don't think anything is wrong with the main/title storyline in this episode, but Lisa seems to retcon her dead cat storyline. Referencing the non-canon "Principal and the Pauper" drives the point home, at least from my perspective.
PFV (talk) 02:28, June 14, 2015 (UTC)
Simpsons Guy Canon?[]
Just A thought, shoudlnt The Simpsons Guy be considered non-canon? I think it would be illogical to link the simpsons universe with the Famil Guy (and the othere shows that come with it) Universe.I would still consider the Futurama corssover canon though
2.26.171.40 13:43, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
Missionary Impossible isn't non canon just because Homer fell into lava that was just recorded for pbs
The Principal and the Pauper[]
Why is this episode considered "non-canon"? Amayamay123 08:48, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
Because other writers and production crew agreed that it differed too much from the series' main plot, even Matt Groening himself said that this episode is considered Non-Canon.Douglasrampazo (talk) 10:41, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
What is wrong with you people? Your rules don't claim that the slightest bit of sci-fi makes an episode non-canon! Take out everything but THOH & other anthologies & future episodes & behind the laughter, 138th episode spectacular & spin-off showcase! People keep adding stuff in because you won't let me edit the list! Ethan J Brown (talk) 08:09, January 4, 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed, as mentioned above, episodes like Missionary Impossible and That 90's Episode don't really seem to belong here. 10amvillain (talk) 08:18, August 27, 2018 (UTC)